0:00 Recapping The Hand and Speculation Of Cheating Between Robbi & Gman
7:30 Daniel's First Take
19:00 Continuing To Break Down Robbi's Logic
22:45 Being Staked By Another Player In The Game (Rip).
25:00 Providing the money back to Garrett (admission of regret?).
31:30 Checking Out Different Ways To Possibly Cheat.
40:00 How Sure Are We, Really?
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I respect to everyone who were involved in this, Seriously the best piece that I’ ve ever seen on YouTube, HATS OFF TO WELL ALL ! LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!! 🥰🥰☺️☺️🥰
Absolutely. Well said. It’s nice to see someone with A BRAIN look at this and shows the wide spread between the few that qualify and all the others.
Kodos Dnegs, finally someone well known in poker who is ready to accept that she might be not guilty.
@Mr Humble there’s no “her perspective”…. she’s changed her perspective 4x since.
Facts she got more abuse from Garret then any hell muth in 20 years
I dont care what anyone says, this is cheating at its finest. All you need is to have an insider that has access to the live stream and card reader at hustler, and then you find a girl with big chi chis to wear a little bit of clothes and send her with a bodyguard in case something goes down, and let them play. She didnt need to know his cards only to know shes ahead
@Chris Koshinski Great point Chris. People who tell the truth don’t change their stories.
Terrence seems to have a very limited understanding of cheating devices on the market
D negs, just a shout out for your appearance on lex’s podcast. Represented yourself and the game brilliantly!
I haven’t had the chance to listen yet but was pleasantly surprised to see him on there! Lex has such a wide range, love it.
I watch this last night she looks very uncomfortable during this stream! I do agree with you Daniel she was not cheating!
I agree with dnegs theory if shes not cheating just tired of being bullied which is easy to do when it’s your backer/boyfriends money.
Reminds me of a small hand by Mike Nia when he called with 8 high I believe, to win a pot. Don’t think there was any cheating. She knows that Garret is always bluffing and she just called the bluff
Yeah Garret is always bluffing there, that’s why he is up over 1 million in this game…if only the other pros could figure that out.
“I thought you had ace high, so I called with j high”…. yeah makes perfect sense 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Her play is spot on to what we see at my super low stake home game with a neophyte. If it weren’t for the amount of money at stake, everyone would just roll their eyes and move on.
Exactly 💯 lil over hyped too be honest
She’s not a neophyte, she’s been playing for years and has a lot of hours under her belt. Not a pro, but not an amateur either. I think that’s why Rip was using her to cheat and staking her in the game, people would be much less suspicious of her because she’s a woman and has lower skill level.
@Dremin2009 how would she be cheating tho?
Robbi’s call had noting to do with poker theory or strategy. She had a hard on for Garrett over past encounters and her call was purely emotional and without serious thought. She mentioned past experience between the two of them. All the bullshit about blockers was an attempt to justify the call when she didn’t have to justify it. She put her money in the pot and she got lucky.
Let’s say she saw his cards because he was lifting them too high. Is it still considered cheating? Last I checked, you are responsible for protecting your cards. That’s on Garret if that was the case.
True but even then I’m not sure she risks all that money. I think she put him on less, that if she knew he had that many outs she doesn’t call.
She might have seen, say 7 of clubs and guessed that the other is 8 of clubs or A of clubs. But to be honest, she seems so lost I don’t think she had any idea what she was doing.
The way Garret holds his card no way she saw it. He protects his card like a ggirl
Thanks Terrance, for pointing out the hand before. As an amateur, Robbi could easily think she has Jack three, because she states can you beat a three, she then looks at her hand and see Jack four. Now she just go for it.
“She could think she has a jack, beaches she states she has a 3″???? Wtf are you on? Lmao. If she thought she had a j she should of said that….. btw after she says ” a 3 is no good”? She checks her hand 3x immediately after that statement
to be fair both Andy and Ivey said on the stream what i think is true of this situation. she thought she had J3, then was embarrased to win once she saw she misread, and tried to play it off whilst Persson was lauding her call. Garrett should give the money back
You pros are way overthinking this because your thought process is so much more advanced in this game. As a rec player it makes total sense to me that she called. She read the guy and went with pure emotion and her gut. I’m just sick that people are bullying her and she actually gave him the money back, now that is insane. As a woman playing poker this is a set back and only makes me feel more intimidated to make what pros consider bad calls and win. Thanks for the video and a different perspective that doesn’t accuse her of cheating.
This exactly. I see calls like this all the time in low stakes, or amateurs against amateurs. I know that for myself, I try to study the game as much as I can, but when I’m at the table in a stressful moment, I forget everything I learn and go with my gut, which often leads to a bad play. But it’s poker, so every once in a while, a bad play will still win you a hand. Just ask Phil Hellmuth and his Q4.
Honestly Dnegs is amazing at reading people when he speaks on matters like this with incomplete info it’s a priveledge to hear his take, I’m confident this is as close to the truth as we will get.👏👏
Her giving the money back was closest will get to her admitting she was cheating
@Chris Koshinski nah, Kevin heart playing with pros mis read a hand thought he had a straight won a huge pot. He gave the player the money back. He felt bad.
Plenty of reasons to do it.
@Mr Humble not even remotely close too the same situation
If that was Alan Keating called that hand with J4, I am sure nothing will happen.
Dan hit the nail on the head. This is my thought process exactly! She was trying to “prove” herself in a hand, thinks he’s bluffing, does a min raise, got in over her head, didn’t really consider what she had and then just went for it hoping his cards were low. I truly don’t think there’s more to this story. As a female, I can understand how a girl would he trying to prove herself, especially at these high stakes tables. She got super lucky and she won. She still won that hand fair and square and deserves that money. IMO, Garrett’s career is finished, I lost a ton of respect for him, after this childish and immature response to a donkey play by an amateur player.
Cheating is and always has been a thing in poker. This was one of the most insane and stupid plays ever. He is a poker player trained to smell a rat and act accordingly. He knew hecwas either cheated or she is the worst player in poker. His reaction was calm and perfect.
@yo it was insane and stupid because she’s not a good player. Look at her other plays. She wanted to call his bluff and didn’t even consider how stupid it is to do that with J high then changed the narrative once she realized everyone at the table thinks she’s an amateur.
@Amanda agreed but insert Does min raise, reads his body language (has experience playing with him as previously stated), recognizes a tell that he isn’t good, baited him with min raise, waits for his all in & decides to call…. I have made the mistake of being inattentive/bored with similar situation, had Q10 previous hand now have KQ thinking I had Q10, and was she really looking at her cards or making it look like she was looking at them and looking for tell, she also made a move with chips from back of stack to front of her stack in a effort to get a final read, just before calling and then caught his hand in the cookie jar
Remember, at the table she said the call was a “bluff catcher”. And she was sort of right.
This is one of your best discussions ever, and very much in line with my own thoughts from very early on, when the idea that she wasn’t cheating, was falling on deaf ears in chats.
A few details need to be pointed out, though.
1. She credibly claims to be playing only since 2021. The Hendon Mob database has been corrected to reflect that, because apparently both her own tourney results, and those of a Robert Lew, had been combined in error.
2. Part of being a true narcissist, is only giving credibility to your own viewpoint, so doubling down with a diatribe, was to be expected, by anyone who thinks Garrett fits that description.
3. It was crazy of Garrett to accept the chips from her, whether he asked for them, or she freely offered them. The guy is allegedly a pro, and needs to accept that the casino shipped the pot to her, end of story on that. Doubly true versus a rich fish/beginner/rec player.
4. HE FAILED TO CALL THE FLOOR before the pot was shipped. Anytime you think you are being cheated, or the pot is being shipped to the wrong player, you are duty-bound to call the floor in order to protect the game. Plus, in my view, that forfeits his right to complain later. Again, he’s a professional poker player, and should know that it is up to the casino to decide who deserves a pot, not him.
5. The best defense of her which I have heard, in terms of her actions not being unprecedented or necessarily nefarious, was given by David Williams on Joey’s channel in the last hour or so this morning. He is strongly of the opinion that Garrett was crazy to tap on the fish tank, lacking any evidence beyond the hands and betting pattern. People are allowed to play however they want, and she did exactly that. He goes so far as to say that this should disqualify Garrett from every invitational/private game, that Garrett certainly will never play in any lucrative private game David arranges or has any control over.
John in NH
(I sat next to Daniel in stands at first PPT event at Foxwoods, watching Jennifer, Juanda, etc.)
Craziest call in Poker History just made her an instant celebrity, the whole poker world is talking about this
Good way of showing empathy, Daniel! Always love hearing your thoughts 🙂